Minutes of the Meeting held at 7.00 pm on Monday 19th October in the Taw
Room, Civic Centre, Barnstaple
Members Present:
T Pratt, Chairman (NDYC) J. Kelley (RSPB)
J. Earnshaw (GAIA Trust) G. Holder (Ashford Parish)
R. Gotts (NDFA) C. Hassall (Rolle Canal & CPRE)
N. Briden (Devon Birdwatching & P.S.) M. Ford (Braunton Countryside Centre
R. Graham (MOD, RM Instow) P. Fronteras (MVS & WPC)
S. Brown (MVS) R. Day (ND Coast AONB)
S. Shambrook (RMB Chivenor) M. Roberts (Coastwise N.Devon)
Lt. Col. MB (Retd.) Portman (Commandant A. Bell (UNESCO Biosphere
Fremington Training Camp and Braunton Reserve)
Burrows Training Area) S. McKay (Environment Agency)
Others Present:
J. Breeds (By Invitation)
1. Welcome, Introductions and Apologies for Absence:
The Chairman welcomed all present who then introduced themselves and stated whom
they represented.
Apologies were received from Justin Gillett, (N.E.) and Roger Hoad, Bideford
Harbour Master, Andrew Atkinson (NDSA), Marguarite Shapland ( Braunton Parish
Council).
The Chairman informed the meeting that a note had been received from Jerry Lee
stating that, quote……
North Devon Council is examining its resource commitment to all its many
partnerships. As a result, the Council will be represented on the TTEF by the
Biosphere Reserve, who are the contracted service for environmental issues. This
is in effect a continuation of existing arrangements and reflects our approach
across the many alliances which form part of the Local Strategic Partnership.
Consequently, Andy Bell or his nominated representative will be our expert
representative and liaison and will continue to provide leading expertise and
strong support to the TTEF.
……………..unquote
The Chairman suggested that a letter of thanks be sent to Jerry Lee thanking him
for his continued support. This was proposed by Rose Day and seconded by David
Graham.
2. Minutes of previous Meeting – Monday 20th July 2009
Acceptance of the Minutes of the Forum’s meeting on 20th July was proposed by
David Graham and seconded by Malcolm Roberts.
3. Matters Arising from the Minutes
(a) Estuary Report:
The Harbourmaster had submitted a report which will be published in full on the
Forum’s website. This covered the fact that ball clay shipments to Spain and
Finland have ceased again due to lack of demand in line with other exporting
South West ports and as a result redundancies have occurred. The report also
mentioned a shipment of road salt form Northern Ireland being handled
successfully in early October, the production of bow sections of the Navy’s new
aircraft carriers at Appledore Shipyard and the arrival of a Russian RO-RO ship
to transport them to Rosyth. The report went on to highlight other arrivals at
Bideford.
The next part of the report dealt with the recent sale of Yelland Oil Jetty and
speculation about a possible wind farm on this site. The report concluded with
the note that no new houseboats have been allowed to stay in Bideford Harbour
although requests and arrivals continue to be steady.
Estuary Registration Scheme. In respect of the Estuary Registration Scheme and
Leaflet, 58 craft are now registered, 44 of these local and 6 for whom insurance
has expired or is about to expire.
Appledore Quay Wall. The Chairman informed the meeting that he had heard from
Sarah Chappell, Conservation Officer with TDC responsible for the Sea Wall who
stated that Halcrow Engineers, Councillor Eastman and Mr Peter Reveley met on
site at the end of July to look at the installation of the panels. Planning
Permission was granted in 2005 (Application No. 1/2327/2005) for this method of
finishing the existing quay wall. A photograph of the panels was circulated to
all attendees of the meeting.
Houseboats / Liveaboards on the Estuary. The Chairman confirmed that he and Rose
Day had met with North Devon Planning Officer, Keith Bines in January 2009 to
discuss the problems associated with houseboats/liveaboards in the estuaries. At
that meeting it was agreed that Mr Bines would look into the planning
implications and consult with other departments on such things as Council Tax.
To date no response had been received despite the Chairman calling on two
occasions. He resolved to progress this. Rose Day confirmed that she had spoken
with Andrea Davis on this subject and it was decided to keep the pressure on to
have this resolved. It was felt that attention should be paid to this, matter,
particularly the issues of waste water, effluent and disposal of rubbish. It was
further suggested that a site meeting be called and councillors invited to see
for themselves the extent of the problem. Geoff Holder said that he would raise
this matter at the next meeting of the Ashford Parish Council and he would also
email Andrea Davis on the subject.
Chris Hassall commented that we had asked for the names of leaseholders of the
properties and a letter from the Crown Estates’ agents (Knight Frank) confirmed
that they would come back to us with a new map detailing the leaseholders. The
Chairman said that he would follow this up.
Severn Sands at Fremington. There is some movement in respect of this matter but
it is being kept confidential at the present time.
Bathing Water Results for Instow. The results to the end of September have
resulted in failures on both Guidelines and Imperative Standards. These are
linked to salinity highlighting the fact that, as believed, the pollution is
coming down the Torridge and is land-based. It was noted that Andy Lehman is now
looking after Torridge for the EA.
(b) North Devon’s UNESCO International Biosphere Reserve:
(Awaiting Andy Bell’s notes)
(c) North Devon Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty Partnership:
The Chairman joined with members in congratulating Rose Day on her election to
Chairman of the AONB for two years, taking over from Richard Butler. The
Chairman also thanked Richard who has served the Forum unstintingly for a long
time as representative of the AONB and a member of the Steering Committee last
year. He went on to say that Rose’s appointment will have consequences for the
TTEF representation on AONB, more details to follow on this. Rose then gave her
report, commenting that it would be an exciting year as the AONB was celebrating
its 50th Anniversary. As it is a unit of two people in North Devon it was going
to be difficult to mark this but they were working with partners and where the
partners have upcoming events they would be branding these as AONB 50th
Anniversary events. Rose went on to list some of the approaching events
including Appledore Arts, Beaford Arts, Lobster & Crab Fest and Herring Fest in
Clovelly, the Walking Festival and ending with the North Devon Festival. More
details of these events are available at www.northdevon-aonb.org.uk/events. Rose
went on to mention the AONB Sustainable Development Fund which targets community
projects and is helpful in the area of training volunteers. She said that she
expected it to be a very busy but enjoyable two years.
(d) Braunton Burrows:
Andy Bell gave a short update commenting that grazing was now in place (cattle
and sheep) and fences are up.
Lt. Colonel Portman informed the meeting that Fremington Training Camp was due
to close on 13 December 2009 and it would take up to six months to hand over the
camp. It was currently undecided who would take responsibility for Braunton
Burrows Training Area but there would be less usage of this training area in
2010. He explained that this was now the trend as the financial situation was
difficult. TA training would only be taking place in cases of deployment to
Afghanistan and all other training would be voluntary and therefore unfunded.
The next conservation meeting is due to take place on 12th November and it would
be the last. He provided his telephone number (01271 312950/2) if anyone needs
to contact him.
The Chairman informed the meeting that he had received a letter from Mr
Coldwell, Chief Executive of Christie Farms. Mr Coldwell began by apologising
for his tardiness in responding as he had been away on vacation. He went on to
confirm that there had been a Management Agreement with Natural England for many
years and prior to that there was an Agreement between the MOD and the NCC. He
explained that at no time had the Management Agreement incorporated any type of
education or volunteer work. He went further in explaining that a warden was
provided originally by the NCC/English Nature and latterly by Natural England
and the MOD, and that the Christie Farms Estate had never been asked to provide
such services, nor indeed did they have the capacity to do this. He stated that
the area is now within the Stewardship Scheme and this provided the possibility
of funding for such a purpose. Whilst the Estate currently does not receive such
funding he confirmed that they were investigating the matter but solely on the
basis that the Estate can provide the optimal warden service/educational service
on the site. He said that he was not averse to being involved in the TTEF for
attending meetings or on a more permanent basis as there is a large stretch of
the foreshore that is under the jurisdiction of the Estate.
Lt. Commander Portman said that Mr Coldwell had agreed to chair the Conservation
Group for one year up until November 2009 and he hoped that Mr Coldwell would
continue.
(e) Devon Area Estuary Officers Group:
There has been no meeting since the last TTEF meeting. The next is due to be
held on 9th December.
(f) Joint NDC/TDC Local Strategic partnership Delivery Board:
The Chairman informed the Forum that he had been unable to attend the last
meeting on 3rd September as he was on holiday. The main agenda items were:
• The Economic Recession
• The Volunteer Release Scheme
• Information from Housing & Community Agency
The next meeting is due to be held on 19th November 2009.
(g) District Council Liaison – Reports from Liaison Offices:
The Chairman referred to Jerry Lee’s note and said that he had spoken with
Annette Dentith of DCC on the subject of the Waste Plant. She had informed him
that it was unlikely that the planning application would be submitted until mid
November. As agreed, as soon as the planning application has been received the
Chairman will convene a special Planning & Consultation Committee meeting that
would be open to all.
4. Report from Planning & Consultation Committee & Acceptance of P&C Committee
Minutes:
Acceptance of the minutes of 10th July 2009 and 31st July 2009 was proposed by
Malcolm Roberts and seconded by Chris Hassall.
(a) Shoreline Management Plan – Andy Bell confirmed that this was out for public
consultation and he gave a short presentation showing the various coastline
areas and explained that in all cases three time periods were being considered
for action:
• 0 – 20 years
• 20 – 50 years
• 50 – 100 years
The decisions taken for each stretch of coastline and within each time period
would be:
• No Intervention
• Hold the line
• Managed realignment
• Advance the line
These decisions would set the general policy and the details would follow at a
later date. The consultation is open until 8th January 2010. Chris Hassell asked
for confirmation that this was the final draft and the last chance for public
consultation. Andy bell confirmed that this was correct. The Chairman confirmed
that there was to be another meeting of the P&C Committee to put together a
response from the Forum. He invited members to pass any comments to him as soon
as possible. Members were provided with a leaflet on the scheme which also gives
the website address.
(b) Meetings being organised by Andy Bell
Andy Bell confirmed that there would be an Estuaries Plan meeting on 17th
November from 2pm – 7pm to review progress so far. There were originally 14 aims
and the meeting would seek to ascertain how many of these had now been completed
and which were still relevant. It was important to see it will work with other
plans and he asked for volunteers on the day. Anyone willing to help should
contact Andy.
A presentation had been made to the AONB Partnership and it was clear that more
resources were needed to manage the coast.
A second meeting was scheduled to find ways round the lack of officers.
(c) Planning Applications / Consultations:
Knapp House Marina – We were consulted on the Scoping Report by TDC and sent in
the following comments:
i) On Section 4 – Transport Assessment
Assessment on the degree of increased water traffic in the estuary and its
impact on navigation and the rescue services
ii) On Section 6 – Ecology
Assessment of the degree and frequency of dredging required to maintain a
channel to open water and its effects on wildlife, water movements and pollution
of Instow bathing beach.
Assessment of the quantities and effects of effluent discharge from visiting
craft before entering the marina.
Concrete Plant at Yelland
Consulted with Wayne Silver (FPC) and made the following points:
i) If, as we believe, the waste transfer station is acting on a temporary
licence how will the continued use of this batching plant affect that situation
currently and into the future? We feel that it will make it more difficult to
refuse extension to the current licence.
ii) We are not convinced by the arguments put forward by the operators as to any
reduction in overall vehicle numbers as a result of the offsite selling of
concrete produced in the future. It sees unlikely that incoming vehicles
delivering waste materials to the site will necessarily be those taking the
concrete away. If they are not, vehicle movements are likely to increase.
iii) We also have concerns on the environmental effects of concrete production.
What safeguards will be put in place to prevent washout water escaping and
seeping into the ground? Should an environmental survey be carried out?
Recommended not.
The Chairman reminded members that if they wished the Planning & Consultation
Committee to take up any issues, to contact him immediately.
(d) Any other matters:
Richmond Dry Dock: Chris Hassell had spoken with Appledore residents who
confirmed that no planning application had yet been submitted as the Developer
was working on the Gaiety Cinema.
5. TTEF Personnel:
The Chairman highlighted the fact that in the light of Rose’s election as
Chairman of AONB she has indicated her desire to stand down in the interest of
independence from the job of representing the Forum on the AONB and BR. There is
therefore a need to nominate new representatives and he asked for suggestions
and nominations. Rose explained that the job entailed involvement in both
partnership meetings and that they both met during the day three times a year.
The Chairman took this opportunity to remind the meeting that he had taken the
Chairman’s job for 12 months only and that this was drawing to a close. He
reconfirmed that he would not be standing as Chairman again and indicated that
unless another Chairman could be found, the Forum may have to disband. He went
on to say that he would be emailing nomination forms to members and the matter
would be discussed at the next planning & Consultation Committee meeting.
6. Urgent Matters Brought Forward by the Chairman - None
7. Correspondence Received – Mainly covered in agenda. Newsletter from Torridge
Volunteer Service.
8. Agenda Items Proposed for Next Meeting – Waste to Energy Plant. Any other
items should be emailed to the Chairman.
9. Any Other Business - None
10. Date & Venue of next meeting - 18th January 2010, Town Hall Bideford.